Ian Bishop and possible Fake world record claims??

l looks like somebodys not being truthfull about there world record?

Mr Ian Bishop has been claiming a world record he doesnt have.i questioned him and he didnt have any anwsers ,all i asked for was the evidence of the timing,and the person who told him he had a record,he couldnt provide it.. changed his story three times, and blocked me smile emoticon

He also completely ignored the "other guy" who already has the Official world speed punching record,whos punching at 15/17 punches a second! you couldnt make this up!

https://recordsetter.com/worl…/contact-punches-minute/20017….

Must have blocked this guy as well when he asked about it.You cant be claiming records that havent been measured officailly/scientifcally.I could claim 2000 now.....but there not Tested....Thats bollocks ,I dont complain as a rule but i fuckin hate dishonstey in martial arts.The 2 punch records my student beat with the kinetic punch was measured scientifically,if it was filmed,i could of sent that to Record Breakers and they would tell me if it was offical.but because it was witnessed and measured scientifically it stands.Ian has failed to provide any of this evidence.thats all i asked for

last time I saw anything like this is was bob spour claiming to be in the sas,perhaps this is the same thing,that just escalated,he didnt even know he hadnt broke the record,till he checked the guiness site,over 12 months later.he went back on the guiness site, only to find out he hadnt got the record,Heres the message From Ian bishop

http://challengers.guinnessworldrecords.com/suggestions/743

"hi sorry I've only just seen this message now.im most definetly interested in the challenge, although i have seen the video of 805 strikes in a minute and as an experienced martial artist i wouldn't say these punches are correct full contact power punches.i am interested to challenge Robert ardito and prove myself to be the best and make a name for myself after nearly forty years of hard training. i would really appreciate it if you.could reply asap.thank you, Ian bishop founder of the transporter system"

so he must have been claiming it for a year,before he knew it wasnt a record,but then continued to lie about his record,you should have said and come honest then,instead of Making out that your the fastest puncher.He claiming a to beat a record with a score less than than keith liddels official record (average 15 punches a second) ? it a fuckin joke!

Prove to everybody Your not lying and give us the evidence or stop claiming the record you never beat,and if you claim to be the fastest puncher,how come the only record you have is the "unoffical" "official" one you made up?
ill be happy to apologise if im wrong, all we need is the proof?

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    Karl Eastwood Well looks like im not the first one to question his record then? http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=123971

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    Karl Eastwood So his was rejected by guinness? So i just had a close kinetic look at what the reasons may be? his record appears to have a time off 1.36 seconds? but thats not the most suprising thing! he wasnt using Puching he was using open hand finger tip slaps!! you really couldnt make this up!!

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    Karl Eastwood ,Now if i had my "unofficial" speed record checked from today,you know what they would say?....first of all my time was 1.30 seconds for 15 punches not 1 second for 15.its more like 13/14 a second So it still pisses over Ians finger tip slaps,but least i was punching! shows how easy it is to claim a record ,when its unoffiial wink emoticon .What makes his worse is he knew it wasnt a record and it failed the claim and he kept on claiming it was.Thats a Lie! heres my unofficial Clip,and the new unofficial record of 27 punches a second....honest wink emoticon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGq0KD5bTls

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    this is from youtube,i put a clip up to see if he would take the bait? he did! still hasnt sent me any official details so i guessing he lying 

    
    

    
    

    Ian Bishop 4 days ago
     Karl your a joke why don't you come to my house in Barry and I will teach you first hand how to punch properly, you want to have a crack at me im only to happy to oblige more than happy, in fact I think it's necessary
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    Karl Eastwood 7 hours ago
     +Ian Bishop You were the exact reason i put this clip up!  because of your false claims of records,this clip shows you just how easy it is to Fake a record just like yours, This isnt a second its 1.30.yours worked out at 1.36,your also not punching your using your finger tips slapping it. thats why it failed.You only went back a year later to see if it was officiall You realised your mistake and still keep lying to people.when i asked you for official proof,you changed your story 3 times and you blocked me.as of this time I hold  4 official speed punching world records,you dont hold any, your record attempt FAILED,all the links are above for everybody to see youe lies.but you still claim records with the same footage that failed the attempt.You want to prove yourself as the best speed power puncher either A Own an official record to start with or B break one of Somebody already has.i think its disgusting to claim world records that you never had,it puts all the hard work that Genuine world record holders put in to shame. the clip ablove was just as much of a joke as yours.thats why YOURS FAILED the ATTEMPT. So stop lying to everybody.including yourself.
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    Karl Eastwood 15 minutes ago
     +Ian Bishop care to explain yourself? guinness said youre atempt was quote "not suitable" "the punches must be full power punches not short arm punches"  heres the link http://challengers.guinnessworldrecords.com/suggestions/743
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    danielle randall 4 days ago
     Haha what a crock of shit this is?? There not even proper punches you've just made yourself out to look a complete idiotic tosser! But thanks for using your Spare time to try and put a downer on ians name but turned it around onto yourself lmao seriously mate get a life! And some boxing lessons for that matter
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    Karl Eastwood 5 hours ago (edited)
     +danielle randall sorry can you show me where the official details are claimnig his world record,id be happy to apologise if his record is official,just show me the link?
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My Speed punching world record attemps

After finding out that ian bishop hasnt got any official world record,i thought id have a play round with the official ones ,my first two are testing the peramiters of the records,so i can perfect the distance,etc,and perfect the technique.my right arm never does what i want! so i took it as close as i could pushing the peramiters, heres the first two lets see what they say

the first one
quickest time to complete 10 punches 0.78seconds

second most punches in 1 second

most punches in one second 16


Heres one from the other day,I created this to show you just how easy it is to cheat and give the wrong time!when the time not been checked, this was 15 punches in 1.30 seconcd not 1 second.and according to my eye,it was still faster than the time of the 13 punch  a second unofficial record at 1.36 seconds!

fastest punchers and there world records

I thought id have little look at the speed punching world records,the fastest I can find is this chap.

"Chicago, Illinois, United States / November 24, 2012
click here for the clip
The most full contact punch strikes in one minute is 805 by Robert Ardito (Australia) in Sydney, Australia, on 18 March 2009.
Keith Liddell completed 900 contact punches in one minute."

Thats 15 punches a second! from 2012, and I cant find anyone who beats this? hes literally just using the shockwave off the end of it,so he gets a snap each time.these are short arm punches not full power,pure snap,this is the boxers part of the knuckle.But this is really,the most shockwaves completed in one minute.

click the link below
900 PUNCHES IN ONE MINUTE

The most full contact punch strikes in one minute is 805 by Robert Ardito (Australia) in Sydney, Australia, on 18 March 2009.
Thats 13.4 full contact punches a second and thats been the record since 2009 heres a clip of the first attemped theses are still short punches.

I thought it was Ian Bishop but from what I can tell he never got the record? 

but is claiming that he has the record

Guiness book of records said

"The punches must be thrown against the focus mitts with a person holding the mitts, the punches must be full power punches not short arm punches i.e wing chun kung fu style punches."

Ian bishap said july 2013

"hi sorry I've only just seen this message now.im most definetly interested in the challenge, although i have seen the video of 805 strikes in a minute and as an experienced martial artist i wouldn't say these punches are correct full contact power punches.i am interested to challenge Robert ardito and prove myself to be the best and make a name for myself after nearly forty years of hard training. i would really appreciate it if you.could reply asap.thank you, Ian bishop founder of the transporter system"

click the link below

Record challenge refused

It not looking to good? 

Ian bishop 

"Hello there my friends im ian bishop world record holder for the fastest power puncher of all time"

i askes him quote 

"Ian Bishop This is unofficial karl, my official record will be in November at the war on the shore professional Fight show"

Mike Badgers World record punch example and improvment!

You know when I was watching Mike badger Breaking the record.I couldnt help but Think, that he wasnt using the Ripping shockwave.i didnt have chance to show it him properly on the day. but ive just shown him the "Ripper"and im Quietly confident hes going to smash the record again. The ripper has 40% more power,than the deep shockwave. here you can see the type of Kinetic punch he used to break the record,and the step up with the ripping shockwave. heres the clip!

World record breaking kinetic punch!

Kinetic punch smashes two world records!

Heres some numbers From a Pro boxers punch.measured on the strikemate.

Best-hook punch Welterweight Pro-Boxer 75Kg 33,000 cu
Best-rear hand punch Pro-Boxer, Welterweight 75kg 36,000 cu

Mike Bager 74kg rear hand boxing punch scored at 28,580 which is just below a pro boxers punching level,Which its what you would expect,ann he beat the boxing Hook Record at 33,746cu But look at his kinetic punching Numbers.

Mike Badger

Best-rear hand punch below 75kg 46,765cu
Best-Hook punch below 75kg 39,508 cu

What you might find even more interesting is he was using the deep shockwave,the Ripping shockwave adds another 40%more power so the potenial is massive.Imagine what i could do For MMA and BKB and even though this punch cant be done in boxing gloves.dont think that i cant take any of you boxers to a whole new level as well.

The world record breaking Kinetic punch!

Time to join the Revolution

Heres the numbers of the kinetic punch as it stands.In a nutshell the kinetic punch compared to a boxing style punch

Jab Straight Cross 

At long range the straighter kinetic punches have +40% (upto 63%) more power

At close range +61% 

6inch punch +141% 

Stepping before punching +17% 

Hooks Uppercuts Overhands

At long range the hooking kinetic punches have +30% more power

At close range +118% 

Stepping before punching +6% more

Shockwaves example

Kinetic jab+ Light shockwave +40% on the boxing punch

Deep shockwave +70%

Ripping shockwave +110%

Smashed  to world records as well at the weekend.

old record Pro-Boxer 75kg 36,000 cu

new rear hand kinetic punch 74kg 46,765cu 

old record hook  Pro-Boxer 75Kg 33,000 

new Best-kinetic Hook punch  75kg 39,508 cu.

it also got extra reach and more headmovement. 

Check out the differences at long range and at close range

Hook and Cross

                                           

 Jab

Close range punching, straights, hooks and the six inch punch

                                              heres mike and an example of his punch

                                       
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its not official as i wasnt filmed,but we have the solid scientific measurements and plenty of witnesses.

Record breaking kinetic punch seminar

Well I’m have, to that was a very interesting experience. I can’t believe how much the strikemate has just taught me again today! It appears at a quick look. That the percentage step up between the two punches can be very significant, and the shockwaves are the ultimate key and it really depends on just how well you can deliver the shockwaves with the standard punch. But also just how refined your standard boxing punch is to start with. The better you are at the shockwaves, the bigger the step up is when you make the switch. Here’s two guys are known for their power!

So we’ve got mike badger, a very hard hitter, been fighting, teaching muay Thai for 20 Years. Mike was shown the light. Deep shockwaves in 2010 and was shown a basic version of kinetic punch around the same time. But it hadn’t been refined since and he hasn’t been shown all the shockwaves. But spent some proper time developing/refining that, the deep snap. With a significant difference in what he was doing, giving him some serious impacted into his boxing punches.

Rob Mawdesley (Thor) is an instructor, bjj expert, trained since he was 4? He’s held one punch record and still holds a kicking record. He has some serious skill, last time I was up measuring my punch. I showed him the knuckle and wrist position of the kinetic punch. But he never practised it. So rob was totally new to it really, but talk about a natural athlete, you just don’t see many big guys, with this sort of skill set, the look on mikes face when he held a pad for him! Serious power. He out punched me pound for pound, and beat every number I got on the strikemate on the first visit. And this was with the boxing punch! So I was thinking if this guy is kinetic punching? What’s he going to be getting? But it’s important to remember he was taught it, and within minutes, testing it

Roberts measurements

Roberts best boxing cross was 35,625

Roberts best kinetic cross was 46,545 that’s a 32% increase in power

Here’s a look at the percentage increase of his shockwaves on the kinetic hook

Light shockwave 28,546cu

Deep shockwave 37,855cu that’s a 32% increase in power, (max 30%)

Ripping shockwave 49545 that an increase of 30% (max40% )

Mikes measurements

We started off with the cross, I measured their standard cross punch first

Mikes best boxing cross was 21,798cu I made a few tweaks that brought it up to 28,580cu that’s a thirty 30% increase by breathing with a sharp breath! And intent. Same boxing punch.

Mikes best Kinetic cross was 46,765 that means, his kinetic cross has 63% more powerful than his boxing punch. Altogether from 21,798 to 46,795 that’s a 114% step up. At 74kg mikes hitting at 631cu per kilo that’s a serious number! And I’m thinking that’s a record below 95kg

Mikes best boxing hook was 33749

Mikes best kinetic hook 39,548 that’ means his kinetic hook has 20% more power (max30%)

Mikes hooking Shockwaves

This was a kinetic hook, but later in the seminar, the important bit is the percentages, tired or not they should still be the same step up across the board

Light shockwave 23,907

 Deep shockwave 30,731 that’s 28% on the light shockwave (max  30%)

ripping shockwave 37,727 that’s 22% more power than the deep(max 40%) so he’s got a bit of work on the Ripper, but he’s right there with the deep shockwave (that was the one that gave him 46k when he was fresh)

Mike at 74kg matched Roberts Kinetic cross score at 100kg , But both of there kinetic cross scores were with deep shockwaves. as you know the ripping shockwave on the cross adds another 40% That means there a potenial score available of 64,000cu. That would give Mike a kg per pound rating of 864kg per pound.The best so far punching is 781kg by uriah hall (ufc)

I also think Robert would be doing something similar in his own weight class,with a bit of practice,even though he already at the top.

Heres a clip of mikes progression of the deep shockwave and the boxing punch from 2010,none of use are kinetic punching yet either,notice how the fisrt punch,has more of a dull thud,wouldnt hurt no were near as much basically.in the third clip you can see just how much more imact and explosivenss is in his boxing punch.look at the pad fireing away!

Shockwaves are the main key to precision,power,impact,enegry used,speed.

lets have a look at the close range power levels

Karl’s close range punching

Notice the massive drop off in power of the boxing punch as the kinetic punch holds its own

Best boxing punch 9390cu

Best kinetic punch 15686cu the kinetic straight punch at close range has 67% more power

Boxing hook close range 7796cu

Kinetic hook close range 17069cu the kinetic hook at close ranges has 118% more power

My 6 inch boxing punch was 4432

My 6 inch kinetic punch was 10725 the kinetic 6inch punch has 141% more power

Basically I’m backing up the measurements I got personally, an proving that it’s the same step up across the board,For everybody because it’s a different technique to the boxing punch.

kimbo slice and Micheal j white clip detailed video explaination.

the boxing punch has a roll in the shoulder, which gives away the punch, this is also the type of punch Kimbo is conditioned the read, he changes the karate style punch on the third, because kimbo doesn’t see the boxing movement, it’s also a quicker punch, because of the drive

when j whites hands are down, and he says don’t let me hit it, he’s stood at a distance that action beats reaction, using a drive, instead of a boxing swing, he knows at that distance, it can’t be stopped/blocked, simple and based on science, but takes a lot of skill to do, and years of practice to master....unless of course you learn the shockwaves,these are the fast track to speed, precision and explosiveness.

but it can take years to master, if you train regular in bigger boxing gloves, you will roll the shoulder, Michal white has a karate background, so he didn’t start in heavy gloves, top level boxers use much more of a drive, using the head more, to control the body movement, this significantly reduces the movement of the shoulder. Apart from hand /wrist position the key to this in Gloved Boxing is the shockwaves, they’re the quickest route, to teaching you an understanding of precision, speed, explosiveness on a level that the top pros understand it. Here’s Bernard Hopkins starts talking about exactly the same thing just in more detail.with a little defensive stuff thrown in, as it starts,hes talking about the same thing,from a pro boxing view.the difference here is you have no choice with the shoulder,but it becomes much more important to be in the right position ready to fire the punch out, with the shoulder already dropped in position,then the punch only moves forward,and there no obvious shoulder roll.

here a clip of me explaining what there doing,in detail,and explaining the strongest position for the boxing punch.